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    Default POKERSTARS IS A COMPLETE RIGGED JOKE

    Here's the deal:
    I started playing poker 8 months ago because I am disabled and I was just wanting something to do. I started noticing I was pretty good at it, I could land good spots in the local tournies at the local casinos here..nothing big, just small tournies, (nothing over a $150 buyin, ever) and also in cash games.
    I put in $50 online just to try it out and to have something to do on the days while I can't make it to the casino.

    Within the first two weeks, I was doing great. Up around $2,000USD and just doing good in almost everything and placing in decent spots here or there, and repeatedly taking down pots at the lower cash stakes. I didn't play a tourney over $5.
    I withdrew a good chunk of that money, and immediately after, I started to lose.

    I started to figure something was fishy just after a week, but I know about bad variance, and I just figured it was that. It has been five months now, FIVE MONTHS, and it is DEFINITELY NOT THAT.

    To the people who say YOU SEE MORE HANDS YOU SEE MORE BAD BEATS, THAT'S JUTS THE WAY IT IS -- right in a way but WRONG - YOU'RE AN IDIOT

    The ammount of bad beats, while of course will be up if you play more hands, WILL NOT INCREASE IN CONSISTENCY JUST BECAUSE YOU PLAY MORE HANDS.

    I've heard so many excuses, but the bottom line is this, I started to monitor hands on the third month of getting bad beat, and did so for a full month. I monitored 1586 hands where I was ALL IN vs only ONE other player, winning by AT LEAST 70% or BETTER..
    MAGICALLY i lost 82% of these hands, the exact # is 81.XXX%, but out of the hands that i should win a BARE MINIMUM on AVERAGE of 70% of the time or MORE, I lost almost 82% on average. That is so statistically improbable that it is really IMPOSSIBLE.

    And every time I log in, the same shit. It's been five months now, and after profiting and placing lleft and right for the first two weeks i have not done good in ANYTHING since, not ONE tournament, and I've played in over TWENTY TIMES the ammount of tournaments i played in those first two weeks. I also won a bit of T$ (tournament $) winning sattelites and unregistering for the main events, $215 and $109 tournaments..whcih is when i decided to take the real cash out, and just keep the $600 or so I had in T$ to play on.

    It's been 5 months now and there's $200 in my account now. I've spent through around $2,000 buyins, compared to $120 in buyins in the first two weeks, and I HAVE WON NOTHING COMPARABLE TO MY LOWEST IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS, but somehow I DO GOOD IN EVERY TOURNEY I PLAY

    I can to the top 10 and stay there until the payouts just about start, ALMOST EVERY TIME, and then WHAM, that's when the MAGIC happens, I get aces or a set or a straight, or basically THE NUTS and someone shoves I call and THEY SUCK OUT EVERY TIME

    EVERY time I play it's the exact same bullshit, right now is no exception.
    I just joined a $5.50 headsup 4player, looking for a good game, 10 min blind increments, 1500 stack, 10/20.
    10 mins in I have gotten this guy all in 4 times with the winning hand and he still wins. He finally bests me one more time, and I just throw it. Here's the last hand (after this I just tossed it)
    names have been changed to protect the noobicent
    Ayutla-THESTUPIDNOOB: posts small blind 10
    ME: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ME [As Ks]
    Ayutla-THESTUPIDNOOB: raises 40 to 60
    ME: raises 1620 to 1680 and is all-in
    Ayutla-THESTUPIDNOOB: calls 1260 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (360) returned to ME
    *** FLOP *** [9s Td 6s]
    *** TURN *** [9s Td 6s] [Jc]
    *** RIVER *** [9s Td 6s Jc] [2d]

    so then i join a $10 headsup with just one person figuring it's gonna be good play, pot limit, but no, same bullshit
    it get him all in several times and he just sucks out
    then he pulls one last one

    Dealt to ME [As Ah]
    soumillon85-THENOOB: calls 10
    ME: checks
    *** FLOP *** [9s 7s Ts]
    ME: checks
    soumillon85-THENOOB: bets 40
    ME: raises 120 to 160
    soumillon85-THENOOB: raises 360 to 520
    ME: raises 1080 to 1600
    soumillon85-THENOOB: calls 640 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (440) returned to ME
    *** TURN *** [9s 7s Ts] [Kh]
    *** RIVER *** [9s 7s Ts Kh] [2c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    ME: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
    soumillon85-THENOOB: shows [8d Jc] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
    soumillon85-THENOOB collected 2360 from pot


    and it's always like this, just complete MIRACLES in order for me to lose, and NONSTOP.

    Now here's the beauty of it..i've gone around trying to PROVE to people that the site is rigged, and they will HEAR NONE OF IT. THEY ARE ALL SO CERTAIN WHILE THEY HIT DEPOSIT EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND REALLY HAVE NO POKER KNOWLEGE OR EXPERIENCE THAT THE SITES ARE LEGIT, BECAUSE THEY KNOW SOME XYZ FAMOUS PERSON WHO IS PAID TO PLAY ON IT!!!

    TALK ABOUT A GENIUS SCAM!

    Post your pokerstars bad beats here, on this thread, if you are a good player who is having the exact same experience. Let's get a huge log going of what complete rigged BULLSHIT keeps happening on this site EVERY day, and how we ALL can keep getting our ALL OUR CHIPS IN WITH THE BEST HAND CONTINUALLY AND LOSING REGARDLESS!! BULLLLLSHIT

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    Maybe your just not as good as you think. Of all the times you've been sucked out, you use an example of a hand were you play your aces horribly. You limped in heads up pre flop then manage to get it all in after your behind on the flop chasing a flush draw. THATS your example of how you get sucked out on. Thats an example of how you failed to suck out on someone else. Welcome to poker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateDaug View Post
    Maybe your just not as good as you think. Of all the times you've been sucked out, you use an example of a hand were you play your aces horribly. You limped in heads up pre flop then manage to get it all in after your behind on the flop chasing a flush draw. THATS your example of how you get sucked out on. Thats an example of how you failed to suck out on someone else. Welcome to poker.
    I have to agree with Nate here. All in preflop against a random hand, you only win 80% of the time. If you play it the way you played it, don't expect to have good results.

    You should be raising pre-flop with AA at least 95% of the time.
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    i also like (love= the nice raise with AK that you showed there.. 10'20 blinds and a guy raises to 60 and you ship shove to 1680?? i guess you dont need anyone to tell you that is "great" play??

    Also you let someone with ANY hand see a free flop and get upset you are outdrawn? when you actually are NOT outdrawn as when the money went in YOU would need to suckout to win the hand.....

    all in all..you are just not as good as you think.. i checked on my poker office software and i am running at around 73% of winning all in pre flops... cant grumble with that..but i hardly go all in with less then KK so some might not think its that good a figure.. i am still pleased with it..this is after around 35k hands though.. so in the end it all works out

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    Don't blame the site if you lose. If you're really good then bad runs like this will typically overturn pretty quickly. So either you're not as good as you think or... you're not as good as you think.

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    Just get to the money even with a sizable stack and wham - that's exactly my scenario and I knew something was up after playing on sunday I now have proof ! ( read my thread )

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    Default Similar experience to Riggedjokerstars

    I don't know if rigged jokerstars is losing due to poor play (although his limited examples show fairly poor play, but they are for heads up which I don't play) or not but I've had a very similar experience in MTTs. On the bubble or ITM it seems improbable hands/beats occur with abnormal frequency. YTD in tourneys when I've been AI pre, flop, or turn I'm running over expectation on BB won but way under on net expected $ won. Over 248 hands I have a expected BB won of 494 my actual BB won is 656. Sounds pretty lucky but when it comes to net $ won my expectation is $410,000 won and my actual won is $112,000. This is due to big hands getting sucked out at an unusual frequency. You can't attribute this to bad play as I'm obviously getting my money in good. It's probably variance but it seems to occur with such consistency it seems a little fishy. I haven't analyzed my hands from last year but I feel I've had similar experiences. I consider myself a decent player (5*K for tourneys and SNGs on pokerprolabs) and I do win. I have cashed out about $1500 over the past year at stars and probably made over 10k during my life live and online. I've seen a lot of hands both live and online and while I'm not convinced online poker is rigged I'm also not convinced that it isn't.
    Last edited by buckweak; March 13th, 2011 at 02:40 AM. Reason: wanted to add

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    I'm loving the AA hand , wp sir , wp .
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    i love 2 post morons, who come, complain about it being rigged.. get no assistance and then leave
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    If you played any 2 cards, you would suck out a lot as well.

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