LOL bragging about technology & cheating wont do much, no matter how much you research about new ways to cheat don't forget that a professional dealer can deal you anything he/she wants, so if some1 decided to cheat you out of your money, they can do it an old fashion way...

I don't think anyone was bragging about using technology to cheat, This thread was to inform players that want to play in a fair game not to play in casinos anymore because these cards have been found & are in use inside of casinos.

Casinos have cheated since they first opened & nothings changed except the ways in which they do it are much more technologically advanced & there is no recourse for the player because they the states have allowed a monopoly to operate as gaming licenses are issued only to certain groups. If your looking for regulation, forget it. They are in bed together. The gaming control board is run by former tech employees of Bally, shufflemaster etc.

Casinos are just a byproduct of this countries downfall to corporate crooked beauracacy.

And by the way, no dealer could ever sit in front of me & stack the deck, I'm very well aware of all the ways to do it, With any sleight of hand, you just have to know what to watch for. Its all in the expert by Erlanger. Most of the dealers that deal in casinos barely know how to hand shuffle a deck if the shufflemachine screws up. That's the least of my worries.

This is a much scarier proposition

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This seems unbelievable, changing cards...For what blinds is used this system, cause it looks like it cost a lot of money..

I play games as big as 50 100 200 PLO, but I also play smaller at local casinos 1 2 & 2 5NL to socialize. They can do this in any game as well as blackjack. The cards can be mass synthesized using modern technology now without that much cost.

Very interesting post!

I think that everything that has the word "money" related somehow to it is going to have people using their intelligence to have some kind of advantage. Is not by chance that most technological breakthroughs are produced thanks to the military. War is money right? Well poker is an activity that involves a deep connection with it so you're going to have technology changing it all the time.

Sorry my english is not that good to reflect my opinion properly lol

If anyone is interested I would like some help to find out if there is a link here. The first patent listed above from Bally Technologies, Bellevue Washington was originally given to ARL inc. I can't find any link to ARL inc. other than ARMY RESEARCH LAB. Here is a link I found, Nano tech & metamaterials. Its being held in Bellevue Washington. It seems like DARPA may have had a project to develop these cards.

http://www.usasymposium.com/nano/sponsor.htm

Interesting that you have this area of the forum. At least it is labeled "conspiracy", so no one should have too much objection to whatever wild idea is posted here.

I'm certainly glad the OP felt free to put his ideas and info here. There's certainly some BAD logic and bad arguements put forth on BOTH sides of the "rigged" type issues. (We've certainly seen both in this thread, eh?)

OP, Gabe, one thing I did not seem to get by reading your more detailed posts: for the live play cards that can like change values, it was not very clear as to how this was being USED by the live casinos. Could you just expand on this, just simply without the techie details?

gabe c,,please look at my post ultimate safe site,,,i would love to hear you opinions on it,,we need to take back poker from the greed of business else i fear it will never recover.superb thread,i thought i was all alone!

Originally Posted by piv

only thing endangering online poker is if idiots like you stop playing

Exactly. We need all the fish possible to be playing at the tables!