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Old 05-02-2005, 01:03 PM
PokerEdge PokerEdge is offline
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Hello Everyone,
I am the founder of PE, and I thought i'd make an appearance to clarify some things and answer any questions.

First off, our product does not use PT in any way. We have our own database engine and client software that was created from the ground up. We are collecting data on hundreds of thousands of hands 24hrs/day, so it is much more than a personal PT database. We have many hundreds of gigabytes of hand history data compiled into our database.

xxdemexx: "Before you get someones game down I reckon you need 200 hands.."

This is precisely why PE was created! When you sit down at a random poker table, PE will most likely have at least a few hundred hands tracked on a majority of your opponents. Depending on the limit you play at, PE will often have thousands of hands tracked for 80-90% of the players.

"At the lower limits then you're best to think 'fish' all the time. At the higher limits you really know whose bets to respect-if you don't know... "

I think you would be quite surprised!! With PE running, you can quickly scan the tables and see how many good and bad players are at each table. You will be very surprised to see how many super tight players there are at 1/2, 2/4 and 3/6. And how many loose players there are at 10/20 and 15/30! My point is that our database is concrete proof that there are plenty of tight and loose players at ALL limits. Thus, game selection becomes all the more important. At 2/4, if you pick a random table, there's a good chance that it will have 5 very tight players (VPIP<18) and only 1 or 2 loose players (VPIP>33). However, if you open up 4 tables there's a good chance one of these tables will have 4+ loose players. PE will allow you to quickly identify which tables are the good ones, thus giving you the best chance to make the most profit.

xxdemexx: "Looking through the site I also see some errors in analysis. "aggression > 2 = bluffer" - I get postf aggression (NL) of 3 (peaking at 4.5 on turn).. I do bluff sometimes but it would wrong to catagorise me as systematic bluffer and it would cause me a great deal of fun if you did so."

I believe the page you are referring to is this one:
http://www.poker-edge.com/stats.php

This is where I state: "I like to consider players above 2.0 to be clear-cut aggressive and players below 1.0 to be clear-cut passive. Remember - aggressive players are much more likely to be bluffing or semi-bluffing when betting and raising."

I never meant to say that aggression>2 means a big bluffer. I was simply stating that more aggressive means more likely to be bluffing or semi bluffing. For example, if a player with aggression<1 raises or bets, you can almost be certain he has a strong hand. But a player with an aggression>3 has the *capability* to be bluffing or semi bluffing. Also, I was referring to limit stats with those numbers. The Aggression numbers for NL shuould be slightly higher.

Thanks for reading this far. I just felt obligated to clear up a few points. I'd also be happy to answer any questions you may have. In case you disagree with some of my points above about the number of tight/loose players at all limits.. I suggest you take our 3-day free trial and see for yourself. Just opening up some random tables at various limits and looking at the distribution of tight/loose players will show what I am talking about.

Jason (PE Founder)

Last edited by PokerEdge; 05-02-2005 at 01:07 PM.
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