Great post, I love your answers, especially about passing the money around between donks, so true. Also, I think that you are right about the narrow range as well. I try and play straightforward poker without being to straightforward, if that makes since. I guess its like fastball pitcher, throwing a curve every now and then. The other night I would raise strong hands in various positions and the second guy to my left came over the top with healthy raises and I would lay down hands like AK, AQ. He showed a bluff or two by flipping over crappy cards, one of them was 2-7os. I haven't played much against that guy, so he got me. In he future he will not have that move as much on me. I guess when I look him up next time he'll have AA against my KK, lol, I hope not. I don't let players slap me around, like Doyle B. says, we will play a pot. The game I have been speaking of is 1-2NL, I'm not bragging, but those superdonks probably couldn't beat me not nearly as much in a limit game, especially if I run good at all. I know how and when to ram and jam the pots. I will not make as many mistakes and if and when I do, it won't cost me as much. I understand more of the odds and stuff than this particular bunch. I think that limit poker takes more skill in the long run, especially against donks. It may be harder against pros, who knows? They say in limit you cannot protect your hand as much, ok thats fine. Well in no-limit you can bet a ton to protect and still lose, know what I mean. I think most of the time when you hear that, players just overvalued their hand, like not realistic. Thanks