I understand what you're saying Av8, but a bet saved is a bet earned. I think his initial river call was a "pot's too big to fold" call and it was shown to be a dead money mistake as he was reassured that he was 0% to win this pot with whatever he had. I play with him quite a bit in the SH 30/60 games and I have his email. I'll shoot him an email. Hopefully I get a response on the hand or he can send me his copy of the HH.

I seriously think he had a pair on the turn with and AT or so. I would've played that hand similarly outside of PF with QJs, especially if they were spades with the overcards and backdoor draws. I'd bet he put me on a straight. The BB was pretty bad which is why I expected 3 or 4 extra bets on the river by checking the turn.

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