is there any panic in shoving with ~10bbs at a non-turbo sng? id say no.

raising/shoving is almost the exact same scenario here(again, unless the blinds are complete donks).....if u raise a normal 3x/3.5xbb, the blinds arent gonna be thinking "ZOMG i can push him off the hand if i now shove over the top of him".

they are both likely to call our push with as many hands as they are likely to push against a raise from us and imo, they are only gonna do both with hands that we're behind to.

obv the button will only ever call our shove when he has us badly beat.

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