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Originally Posted by WotaWaster
Maybe you should also do some reading!
MP2 has OESD plus 1 pair. If he puts MrMcJ on AJ or KK/AA (obviously QQ has 2 of his outs).
He has 4 Queens, 4 Sevens, 2 Nines and 3 Eights. Pot is offering him 4-1 odds. Justifiable call on turn.
Flop was a bit silly for MP2 to call, he may as well of just pushed if he was playing hand.
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A bit silly?? U Think? The only reason the pot was offering 4-1 on the turn was the donk re-raised to $2.25 and then called the $6 re-raise. At the time he had NATTA except a open-ended draw and should have just called the ititial $1 bet. What he was thinking is probably too incoherant to understand anyway but following up on the turn was simply a consequence of being stupid on the flop - calling it justifable on the turn because he now has the odds he put in himself is
reversed implied odds at its worse! 2 wrongs do not make a right! Playing suckout poker is losing poker and this donk compounded his error by playing shortstacked so that even if he did suckout on the river, he couldn't get paid off proportionally to the risk (and cost) he was taking!
What you are implying by calling this justifable is that all draws should re-raise on the flop to help ensure getting proper odds on the turn or to claim being pot-committed! If that's good poker in your books please give me the titles so I can avoid buying them.