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Old 09-20-2006, 08:50 AM
edmunddantes edmunddantes is offline
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[QUOTE Villain raises with KQ, you call on the button with J9 suited.
Flop comes QAx.
Villain bets, for whatever reason you suspect he is weak and call.
Turn is a blank and the villain checks.
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Actually if two big cards hit flop I will typically check fold...the move is not worth the chance. I will only attempt this when** only one if any face cards hit flop and never when an ace hits.....Very likely he may have raised with Ace crap off suit and a lot of bad players will ride ace bad kicker to the poor house so bluffing them out....

Only one face card hits I check he bets pot, I call...If he hasn't hit he is like #@$% I'm beat..If he has hit TP he will bet turn and if he has the balls to bet with nothing more power too him, ...but typically if they have not hit that sole face card on board and I called bet...most of them assume I have...

Of course notes and player history will help on whether or not they will trap..but let's say you had KQ and raised PF and flop is Q93 rainbow you bet pot and guy calls-- turn is a blank he checks you will typically bet again...few players will check not giving a J10 a free river therefore I know it's time to get away...

I think a lot of times we make a mistake of assuming the button at 3/6 NL actually has anything at all and both my cards are still live and Jack high might even be good....

But to your point, if two big ones hit I don't think I have the balls yet to make a move....

The one big down side to this play is being exposed to a bear trap on the turn, but once again I think most players will bet it.

I have been re raised on river doing this and just folded..but that has only happened about 1 in 15 times.

So do you think have been lucky just not running into A)big hands B) good players who will fire another bullet C) Trappers and eventually the math on this will not work out?

As it is today -in the course of let's say 16 hands. The re raise on river costs me 140 which happens once that often
Four times they bet turn and I fold costs me 240 So the move has me down 380........but the 11 other times I take 60 a pop = 660 total net =$280

Will this drop eventually or stay with it?
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